Author Topic: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21  (Read 10383 times)

Offline XTSKid

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KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« on: November 22, 2010, 11:22:42 AM »
Hi everyone,

There was a fatal plane crash in Newport Beach last night that departed John Wayne around 5:35-5:45PM Local. I believe that there may be associated audio in the archives, but I currently have no capability to search/edit it out.

If anyone finds anything, post it up.

Thanks

-Steve

EDIT: Plane appears to have been enroute to Torrance from a location in Mexico, and may have been attempting to land at SNA.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2010, 11:38:32 AM by XTSKid »



Offline davisdog

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 01:49:56 PM »
I havent gone into the ATC Archives, but I did listen to the Fire Dispatch for Orange county (which includes the audio from the John Wayne crash trucks and Newport Beach Fire Dept.


If you goto the 15:29-15:59 Archive on 11/21 you can pick up the fire response (first report at 16min 30 Sec into the 15:29 Archive)

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=archives&feedId=6624

Offline jonnevin

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 03:56:47 PM »
i listened to the SNA archive. It's pretty sad to listen to. You hear the controller only and hear the conversation go from fairly normal to "souls on board?" and finally "radar contact lost".

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 03:37:51 AM »
Thanks guys. Had a chance to get in the archives and the associated audio is under KSNA 11/22: 0130-0200.

Eventually the Newport Beach police helicopter asks the controller if he has any idea what happened to which the controller simply responds "ran out of fuel".

- Steve

Offline speedotann

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 10:44:41 AM »
WoW..... Close to Home!  Missed his destination by like 20-25 miles. RIP
Cessna 152

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 01:33:57 PM »
Here is some detail :
http://www.thekathrynreport.com/2010/11/in-photos-beech-musketeer-be19-n6064n.html

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/bay-277090-plane-three.html?pic=1

Comment: Hmmmm they ditched with their gear down and flipped over and probably drowned.... according to the photo's
« Last Edit: November 23, 2010, 01:59:49 PM by alltheway »

Offline iflyhi

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 06:56:53 PM »
any professional thoughts why pilot ditched with the gear down ?

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 08:30:42 PM »
Was it a retractable gear aircraft? If not, there is your reason!
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Offline Hollis

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 10:04:11 PM »
The 1968 Model Musketeer that ditched had fixed gear. Ditching without nosing over would be all but impossible except under ideal conditions - into the wind, no waves, touchdown right at stall speed with wings level and nose high. (basic law of physics).
The first Musketeers with retractable gear were built in 1969, called Musketeer-R.

Offline davisdog

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Re: KSNA Plane Crash 11/21
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2010, 06:56:46 PM »
FYI, there was another crash in the area today of a plane that took off from SNA and crash landed at nearby Fullerton airport.  Fortunately just minor injuries

http://www.latimes.com/ktla-plane-down,0,6601390.story

http://www.ocregister.com/news/fullerton-277564-landing-incident.html


« Last Edit: November 24, 2010, 06:59:54 PM by davisdog »