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Air Traffic Monitoring => Aviation Audio Clips => Topic started by: DTAK on February 01, 2006, 11:58:15 AM
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The controller is becoming a favorite of mine at SEA. He seems to have switched to days this week, and in good form this morning (Wednesday 2/1).
He has a unique "cleared to land" call.
This morning, looking out the window, he spots a potential problem.
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Pilot-induced turbulence? ...do I even want to know what that means?! :shock:
Nice clip though! :)
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Pilot-induced turbulence? ...do I even want to know what that means?! :shock:
Nice clip though! :)
One of the two pilots flew the aircraft using quick, abrupt control inputs which looked like the plane was going through turbulence.
Pilot-induced turbulence IOW means: Pilot controlled the airplane with sharp control movements and the control pressures used created turbulance due to those inputs.
Awesome clip! Haven't heard something like this in a while. ...controller also sounds like he's on the ball.
Jason
P.S. Pilot-induced turbulence in the case it was used in this clip was kind of a joke as well. The ATCT thought the plane was going through some sort of turbulance, but the pilot admitted it was basically their fault. <g>
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Got it! ...and yeah, I kinda understood the joke-part of it. I'm curious though, is there a situation where pilots usually perform these quick movements?
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Got it! ...and yeah, I kinda understood the joke-part of it. I'm curious though, is there a situation where pilots usually perform these quick movements?
IMO: It's the result of poor airmanship, but 20 other people will give you 20 other answers/opinions. In some cases though it could be a result of wind shear or wake turbulence, but pilot-induced turbulence generally means that the turbulence is being felt due to pilot input.
There is no situation IMO that would require a pilot to create their own induced turbulance. It's usually a result of abrupt rudder and alieron/elevator controls.
Jason
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Well in Seattle... I can only think of Big Buildings, Birds, and the abrupt eruption of Mt. Rainier or St. Helens... and well, he might of had one too many in the O club.... :-) (JOKING ONLY)
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There is no situation IMO that would require a pilot to create their own induced turbulance. It's usually a result of abrupt rudder and alieron/elevator controls.
I can think of another scenario: practicing steep turns, I always knew I did a good one when, at the end of the 360-degree turn, I ran into my own wake turbulence.
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I can think of another scenario: practicing steep turns, I always knew I did a good one when, at the end of the 360-degree turn, I ran into my own wake turbulence.
That's definitely a great example of a situation, and I have experienced that before as well. The point I was making was intended for larger, heavier, less menueverable aircraft and I should have also included that I was talking about an approach-to-land scenerio. I haven't done steep turns on final and I sure would't recommend it at such a low altitude<g> :wink: .
Thanks for bringing up an interesting point....I didn't think about that one! :lol:
Jason
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The point I was making was intended for larger, heavier, less menueverable aircraft and I should have also included that I was talking about an approach-to-land scenerio.
Your main point was certainly correct, Jason, I was just joking around...
Mike