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Title: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: timmy on April 29, 2007, 06:38:12 AM
First clip I'm posting. Downloaded from the archives long ago, but I've only now installed audacity and edited this file. The original sequence lasted about 6 minutes, I shortened it to 4.

The controller seemd to be amused about it...

Hope you like it.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: cessna157 on April 29, 2007, 06:44:56 AM
"Tower, stand by, gotta run outside, be back in a min..."


Very nice
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: The Hoffspatcher on April 29, 2007, 07:49:14 AM
Oh thats funny as hell!  8-)
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: curious on April 29, 2007, 08:14:17 AM
You gotta love those archives.  They are the best!
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: A_J_D_C on April 29, 2007, 09:55:56 AM
that is a classic... that seriously made that controllers day you can tell
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: aevins on April 29, 2007, 11:17:51 AM
thats an awesome clip!
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: Miyridian on April 29, 2007, 11:35:55 AM
So how exactly would he get outside? Do they go get a set of airstairs, or does he open the window and throw a rope out, or what?
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: Check Airman on April 29, 2007, 04:18:15 PM
The ATCO is dying of laughter. I'd still like to know how he gets outside...the 340 doesn't have aft airstairs or anyting
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: cessna157 on April 29, 2007, 05:19:00 PM
Getting out isn't the problem.  It's the getting back in that may prove to be a bit difficult...
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: Studentpilo on April 29, 2007, 10:27:56 PM
Hahahahaa
Great controller!
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: jphil on April 30, 2007, 10:21:29 AM
Not sure of this type of equipment, but some large aircraft have a way in and out  of the cabin or cockpit thru the nose gear well down a small ladder.

What a dedicated crew.  Most would probably just go back to the gate and waste more time and money!  Probably not the safest thing to do walking on an active taxiway with live engines.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: Himerzi on April 30, 2007, 12:23:26 PM
Hey was this in Jfk or Bos, when I play this it says in the song info that it is "KBOS-Boston Tower" but the topic says jfk  and the controller does give instructions to position and hold on rwy 31l which is a jfk runway, which adds to my confusion. just pointing that out. :?
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: athaker on April 30, 2007, 01:51:42 PM

What a dedicated crew.  Most would probably just go back to the gate and waste more time and money! 

So true...this pilot was not messing around at all.  If its as simple as closing a hatch though, I'd probably man up and do it myself too...but then again i've never walked around in the middle of a 31L or 22R lineup!
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: timmy on April 30, 2007, 04:01:39 PM
Quote
Hey was this in Jfk or Bos, when I play this it says in the song info that it is "KBOS-Boston Tower" but the topic says jfk 

Hi,

This was JFK. Just to avoid doubt: in the beginning the controller also says "Lufthansa 401", which is a flight (number) from JFK to Frankfurt.

Noticed the song info, too, maybe this is somehow due to my "first steps" while exploring audacity...
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: sanjet on May 03, 2007, 07:49:20 AM
No wonder LH's on time performance is incredible!! Simple problem.... simple solution without going back to gate....
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: aevins on May 03, 2007, 07:14:31 PM
Has anyone heard the relatively new controller at Kennedy? She's a bit humble and seems like a rookie
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: TBolt on May 05, 2007, 07:50:28 PM
This is a great clip.  lol.  Thanks!
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: enginebird on May 14, 2007, 04:20:10 AM
Thanks for the clip, Timmy.

Could you let us know when exactly this took place?

Thanks

enginebird
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: timmy on May 20, 2007, 12:43:14 AM
Hi enginebird and everybody else who wants to know

This was the original file name

KJFK-Twr-Jul-16-2006-2030Z

... been a while

cheers timmy



Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: AirKevin on May 28, 2007, 08:59:11 AM
So they left the gate with the door open, what would have happened if they took off with it open.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: AB8820 on May 31, 2007, 08:15:45 PM
I don't think they left the gate with the control panel open. Seems more like the panel hadn't been closed properly before they left the gate and then opened by itself during taxi, which is where they probably got the warning on their displays.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: MikeA on June 05, 2007, 07:37:26 PM
Funny, but why didnt they have the guy in the car close the door?  It would have been much easier.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: coolian2 on June 06, 2007, 08:02:25 AM
Funny, but why didnt they have the guy in the car close the door?  It would have been much easier.

Does the car ever get there?

As far as i remember the JetBlue confirms the hatch is open and we don't hear from the car again
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: MikeA on June 06, 2007, 08:01:33 PM
From what I heard, the car got there and the guy in the car confrimed that the hatch was open.  Because they were talking back and forth about where that hatch is located. And then, I think, the car left.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: AirKevin on June 08, 2007, 06:04:20 AM
Well, what would have happened if it came open in flight.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: MathFox on June 08, 2007, 07:37:54 AM
Well, what would have happened if it came open in flight.
I would not know... I guess that the pressure gradient over the wing would keep a door at the underside of the wing pressed closed.
When the door would open during take-off, it could get ripped off the plane, causing minor damage to the plane, increasing fuel consumption due to worse aerodynamics, etc. The door would likely end on the runway and need to be cleaned up to avoid accidents with planes using the runway later.
For planes with rear-mounted engines lost wing parts could get ingested by an engine, causing loss of the engine.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: ORD Don on June 12, 2007, 12:34:57 PM

  The controller sounds like a guy who used to work at ORD. He always sounds
  like he's having a good time...
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: davf on June 26, 2007, 05:35:53 PM
So?  Did he fix it?!!
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: athaker on June 28, 2007, 07:08:05 PM
any a340 drivers in the forum...care to tell us how the heck he got in and out of this airplane?  i'd assume nosewheel passage
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: AB8820 on October 23, 2007, 05:45:05 AM
Yup, on the A330/340, there is an extendable metal ladder in the nose wheel shaft, via which you can climb down to the tarmac.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: WickedPenguin on October 27, 2007, 04:08:13 PM
That controller sounds awesome.

I love this, after he tells that American with the problem to cross the runway to take care of whatever issue they were having:

"Northwest 1919, it looks to the untrained eye like you'll be next!"
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: MrMac on December 22, 2007, 01:07:52 PM
Ya can tell he's the ORD guy!
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: aReyoUIn86 on December 27, 2007, 03:20:02 AM
Still dont see why doesnt the pilot do it at gate
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: cessna157 on December 27, 2007, 03:01:17 PM
Still dont see why doesnt the pilot do it at gate


Because getting out of line at Kennedy would take a lot of time trying to get back to the gate.  Then, once the tiny little door was closed, you'd probably have to refuel and get back in line, at the rear of a 2 hour+ line.  I don't blame the guys for just jumping out and doing it themselves.  I have done the same thing.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: Greg01 on December 27, 2007, 05:01:03 PM
I'm sure you didn't exit via the nose gear well...  ;)

Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: enigma00 on January 10, 2008, 07:24:47 PM
Could someone else re-upload this file? It doesn't seem to be working now.
Title: Re: JFK: Lufthansa pilot leaves aircraft on taxiway
Post by: NoMad on January 16, 2008, 09:19:08 AM
Does this remind anyone else of Yurie in the movie Armagedon?  "I am stepping outside!"