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Air Traffic Monitoring => Aviation Audio Clips => Topic started by: Hollis on May 22, 2007, 06:26:42 PM

Title: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: Hollis on May 22, 2007, 06:26:42 PM

A real short clip, but good for a laugh.

Hollis

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: athaker on May 22, 2007, 07:09:07 PM

haha i like it...

you should have kept the pilots response in there!

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: Anthony Katosh on May 22, 2007, 11:08:13 PM

LOL

woulda been nice to hear the pilot response

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: athaker on May 23, 2007, 01:25:53 AM

when was this?

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: mosko5sw on May 26, 2007, 09:02:39 AM

actually if im not mistaken, power pushbacks are done on rare occasions

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: United B-777 on May 26, 2007, 10:00:42 AM

Quote from: mosko5sw on May 26, 2007, 09:02:39 AM

actually if im not mistaken, power pushbacks are done on rare occasions

So called powerbacks are done, but usually on older aircraft (DC-9) with the eingines on the tail and on turbo props. The reason for this is that the reversers work differently. On a modern aircraft, the engine would probably suck in it's own hot air again and would overheat. Furthermore a lot of the air is let out to the sides and it would be too dangerous as things or even people could be thrown around or sucked up. There are some videos of powerbacks on the net. I believe, I have seen some of NWA DC-9 aircraft. Just search for "powerback" on flightlevel350.com and you should be able to find some.

And by the way, I would be interested in the pilot's response as well so it would be awesome if Hollis would post when this occured exactly!


Thanks and best wishes
United B-777

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: KSYR-pjr on May 26, 2007, 10:21:42 AM

Quote from: United B-777 on May 26, 2007, 10:00:42 AM

So called powerbacks are done, but usually on older aircraft (DC-9) with the eingines on the tail and on turbo props.

Yep, that is correct.  I used to travel a lot by commercial airlines in the late 80s and early 90s and actually got to experience one of these as a passenger first hand.  The aircraft was an MD80 and we were parked at a gate at Rochester, NY.  I recall hearing the engines spool way up, feel the airplane go backwards, and thinking, "wow, this airplane has a reverse gear."   :)

After reading about this I discovered that, if the airport allows this type of pushback, the airline would limit this to tail-mounted engine aircraft primarily to reduce the risk of the engine ingesting apron-based debris.

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: Himerzi on May 26, 2007, 02:06:50 PM

http://flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Douglas_DC-9-Airline_Northwest_Airlines_Aviation_Video-5600.html (http://flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Douglas_DC-9-Airline_Northwest_Airlines_Aviation_Video-5600.html)

Title: Re: JFK Ground with a smart answer
Post by: AirKevin on May 27, 2007, 08:22:30 PM

"Right. Are you gonna back up or what."

Too funny.