Author Topic: Clearance Delivery Hell  (Read 13144 times)

Offline keith

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Clearance Delivery Hell
« on: August 02, 2007, 04:25:55 PM »
Pure gold at Caldwell. Never a dull day there.  This is edited for silence and transmissions on other scanned freqs (for that reason, we're missing some of GND's transmissions).

Unfortunately, we can't hear the pilot's transmissions since he's on the ground. 

This shows the importance of paying close attention to clearances, and the necessity to read them back correctly.

Offline The Hoffspatcher

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Re: Clearance Delivery Hell
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2007, 07:52:08 AM »
"No, you're wrong .... again!" oh too funny, I am guilty of saying "sax" instead of Sparta, bad me  :lol:

Offline cessna157

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Re: Clearance Delivery Hell
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2007, 09:33:26 PM »
That's just unprofessional and unnessary.

Offline sierra yankee

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Re: Clearance Delivery Hell
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2007, 11:14:20 PM »
Assuming you're talking about the controller, I disagree.  What's really unprofessional is to be paying so little attention that the controller has to read the route (especially such a simple one, with all of two fixes) 6 times, holding up everybody else.  There's no excuse for that and hopefully a well-considered and carefully delivered bitch slap will encourage the pilot to be a bit more attentive in the future.  After the second time I could have rattled the route off with no problems and I wasn't even writing anything down.  I could have understood it if the controller had done the sort of rapid-fire clearance they sometimes do, but for God's sake, he spelled everything out and went slowly enough that anybody could have gotten it.

I'd say the controller was actually a consummate professional here:  the original clearance was delivered very clearly and with good phraseology, he politely (the first time at least) pointed out the errors, spelled out the route time and again, listened carefully to ensure a full and correct readback (a lot of people probably would have missed the incorrect radial), and was, overall, pretty patient with the guy considering it took him several minutes to finish what should have been a 15-second exchange.

Offline KMSY

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Re: Clearance Delivery Hell
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2007, 01:42:50 AM »
Pen and paper? Just a suggestion.

Offline crash

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Re: Clearance Delivery Hell
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2007, 01:47:15 PM »
Maybe the pilot was an instrument student