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Title: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: cptbrw on August 10, 2014, 10:56:27 PM
Emirates Flight 237 (Boeing 777-300) had made an uneventful landing on runway 04R, was taxiing to the gate and had jut switched to the ground control frequency when they reported a fire in their number 1 engine.  Tower reported fire visible from the engine and the fire services were dispatched to attend the incident.  After the fire services were satisfied that the aircraft was safe it proceeded to the gate to deplane the passengers.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4789f125&opt=0 (http://avherald.com/h?article=4789f125&opt=0)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE237/history/20140810/0450Z/OMDB/KBOS (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE237/history/20140810/0450Z/OMDB/KBOS)

Clip edited for time and relevant transmissions.
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: trichorse on August 10, 2014, 11:28:20 PM
That's the second plane in two days with an engine fire...a Jetblue plane's engine caught fire while on take off roll in Puerto Rico...I asked if any one had any audio of that incident in another post...if it's the same type of engine...
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: cptbrw on August 11, 2014, 07:33:01 AM
Well, it's the same type of engine in that they are both turbofan engines.  The Emirates 777-300 has RR Trent 892 engines while the JetBlue A321 has IAE V2533 engines. The Trent engine (75,000-93,500lbs thrust) has more than twice the thrust  of the IAE engine (A5 variant used in the A321 has (31,300 or 33,00 lbs thrust) and is much larger in size.  No commonality here other than they are both jet engines that had fire incidents.
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: trichorse on August 11, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
So probably not the same issue causing the fire.  Still scary for the passengers on both planes
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: cptbrw on August 11, 2014, 07:28:55 PM
Here is Boston Airliner Spotter video of the fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6l3F8G6syc0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6l3F8G6syc0)
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: trichorse on August 11, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
Yeah...it looks like the fire is actually along a fuel leak trailing out of the engine, and emergency responders said there was a fuel leak coming from the engine cowling...one commenter on the video said the plane had a hard landing, but I've been on planes with hard landings and they've never had an engine fire or fuel leak, but maybe something was already weakened and the landing was the straw that broke the camels back, as they say.
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: trichorse on August 11, 2014, 08:32:24 PM
I think I heard mention that Trent 800 series engines suffered a problem a while back, forcing a Airbus A380 to make an emergency landing after one suffered an uncontained failure.  I forget all the details, but I could have sworn that I read in relation to that incident (it was a Quantas if I recall right), that a notice was sent out about problems with Trent 800 series engines.
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: trichorse on August 11, 2014, 08:37:23 PM
No, I was wrong.  That was a Trent 900 series, not an 800 series.  My mistake.
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: cptbrw on August 11, 2014, 08:42:53 PM
I think I heard mention that Trent 800 series engines suffered a problem a while back, forcing a Airbus A380 to make an emergency landing after one suffered an uncontained failure.  I forget all the details, but I could have sworn that I read in relation to that incident (it was a Quantas if I recall right), that a notice was sent out about problems with Trent 800 series engines.

That would be Qantas 32 which suffered an uncontained engine failure shortly after takeoff from Singapore in 2010.  That was a Trent 900 engine.  There was an issue with  thin-walled section of oil supply pipe that resulted in groundings, inspections and a few engine replacements of other Trent 900 equipped A380's (some A380's are powered by Engine Alliance engines).  Interestingly, the Captain of that flight, Richard De Crespigny, wrote a book detailing the story of that flight called "QF32."

Also, news reports today about the JetBlue incident are saying the cause was a bird strike.
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: trichorse on August 11, 2014, 10:34:01 PM
That's what I'm now hearing as well.  But we won't know for sure until the official report comes out.
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: philip on August 13, 2014, 03:09:01 PM
Emirates Flight 237 (Boeing 777-300) had made an uneventful landing on runway 04R, was taxiing to the gate and had jut switched to the ground control frequency when they reported a fire in their number 1 engine.  Tower reported fire visible from the engine and the fire services were dispatched to attend the incident.  After the fire services were satisfied that the aircraft was safe it proceeded to the gate to deplane the passengers.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4789f125&opt=0 (http://avherald.com/h?article=4789f125&opt=0)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE237/history/20140810/0450Z/OMDB/KBOS (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE237/history/20140810/0450Z/OMDB/KBOS)

Clip edited for time and relevant transmissions.
hi, is it ok if i put it on my youtube directorphilip2? I can't beleive it, i even listened to the feed on liveatc but i couldn't find this part, i heard emirates on tower but he only said taxi to gate, i listened 20 mins before the scheduled landing and with flight radar 24
Title: Re: Emirates 237 Engine fire at KBOS
Post by: cptbrw on August 13, 2014, 03:19:55 PM
I have no objection to putting the audio on your youtube channel but you might want to check with Dave to be sure.  I would think that, at the very least, attribution to LiveATC .NET would be appropriate if posted elsewhere.  The youtube video I attached in the later message is NOT my product and you would need to contact Boston Airliner Spotters for permission to repost.