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Title: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: dave on September 26, 2010, 07:30:15 PM
Audio transcript attached.  No silence removed - all clips in time sequence.

1) DAL4951 on final to Runway 34 at KHPN.
2) DAL4951 with NY TRACON 126.4 getting vectored around while running checklist and checking gear.
    Pilots then decide to go to JFK.
3) DAL4951 with NY TRACON Rober Sector (125.7) being vectored for ILS 31R Approach to KJFK.
4) DAL4951 on final and to landing/evacuation with JFK Tower.

Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: aevins on September 26, 2010, 08:24:05 PM
Thanks for compiling Dave!
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: SASD209 on September 26, 2010, 09:17:40 PM
Everybody seemed very calm and professional, thanks for putting it all together!!
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: dave on September 26, 2010, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: SASD209 on September 26, 2010, 09:17:40 PM
Everybody seemed very calm and professional, thanks for putting it all together!!

Yes, from what one can tell from a series of radio transmissions, a very well executed series of decisions and actions.  Super job by the pilots, Westchester Tower, New York TRACON, and Kennedy Tower.
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: CFD208 on September 27, 2010, 01:58:54 AM
Silence and other aircraft communications removed.  Shorted from 45min to 5min.

I don't mean to step on your toes Dave, but this is for those who want to hear just Acey 4951.


-Steve
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: Screaming_Emu on September 27, 2010, 07:38:38 AM
Thanks for compiling this guys. They all did a really good job, I'm proud to call this crew coworkers.
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: Fred_Garvin on September 27, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Hats off to a bunch of pros making it look routine.

Thanks Dave.

Who is Twin Star?

Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: alltheway on September 27, 2010, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Fred_Garvin on September 27, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Who is Twin Star?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_codes-D
This will bring up "DCS    Daimler Chrysler Aviation    TWIN STAR    Germany"
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: mrhahn on September 27, 2010, 10:01:40 AM
Great job folks, thanks for the edits.
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: Miyridian on September 27, 2010, 12:32:59 PM
Quote from: alltheway on September 27, 2010, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Fred_Garvin on September 27, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Who is Twin Star?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_codes-D
This will bring up "DCS    Daimler Chrysler Aviation    TWIN STAR    Germany"

Could also be one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_DA42_Twin_Star
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: alltheway on September 27, 2010, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: Miyridian on September 27, 2010, 12:32:59 PM
Quote from: alltheway on September 27, 2010, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Fred_Garvin on September 27, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Who is Twin Star?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_codes-D
This will bring up "DCS    Daimler Chrysler Aviation    TWIN STAR    Germany"

Could also be one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_DA42_Twin_Star

The original question was who is Twin Star, not What is a Twinstar. So the callsign Twinstar cannot be a Diamond then I guess.  :roll:
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: Eric M on September 27, 2010, 02:07:47 PM
Although interesting to note that the Diamond 42's original diesel engines were based on production turbodiesel engines being used by Daimler Mercedes.
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: MikeNYC on September 27, 2010, 02:55:23 PM
To answer WHO is TwinStar, it could very easily be a DA-42. When I'm getting flight following with NY Approach, I'll be referred to as "Skyhawk 123" when flying a Cessna Skyhawk 172. That could certainly get confusing with Daimler Chrysler Aviation, but likely they're inbound on an IFR flight plan, and unlikely there would also be a DA-42 near the ILS approach at the same time. Still, it's ambiguous.
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: cwc777 on September 29, 2010, 12:02:46 AM
I'm a very proud and grateful brother of Captain Jack Conroyd.  Thank you for making this available.
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: joeyb747 on September 29, 2010, 10:13:30 AM
Nice job Dave!

Below is the Avherald article, including a vid of the landing from inside the aircraft. Great job by the crew! ATC and PAX remained calm as well! Nice job by all!  :mrgreen:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4316a077&opt=0

A couple days later, another CRJ had the same issue, only on the other side. Skywest CRJ-200 N498CA landed at KMKE without it's left main gear extended on Sept. 28th.

http://avherald.com/h?article=43188efe&opt=0
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: joeyb747 on September 29, 2010, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: cwc777 on September 29, 2010, 12:02:46 AM
I'm a very proud and grateful brother of Captain Jack Conroyd.  Thank you for making this available.

No kidding?? That's awesome! He did a fantastic job! Shake his hand for me!  8-)
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: cwc777 on October 02, 2010, 01:15:50 AM
Jack was wondering how the media got a hold of the audio.  I will let him know about this site.  I have learned a lot by poking around.  Great job guys.
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: cptbrw on October 02, 2010, 08:06:51 AM
Quote from: cwc777 on September 29, 2010, 12:02:46 AM
I'm a very proud and grateful brother of Captain Jack Conroyd.  Thank you for making this available.

He did an awesome job - shake his hand for me too ! ! ! !
Title: Re: Delta 4951 (Acey 4951) Incident (9/25/2010)
Post by: aviator_06 on October 05, 2010, 03:26:08 PM
Quote from: CFD208 on September 27, 2010, 01:58:54 AM
Silence and other aircraft communications removed.  Shorted from 45min to 5min.

I don't mean to step on your toes Dave, but this is for those who want to hear just Acey 4951.


-Steve

Thanks for breaking that down. I agree 45min was a lot!