Author Topic: Cleveland Incident Last Night  (Read 10954 times)

Offline Yegger

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Cleveland Incident Last Night
« on: January 01, 2007, 09:43:40 PM »
I really have no idea what this is.  Transmission was about 10 minutes after midnight Eastern time.   Based on the frequencies listed on the CLE feed, I'm assuming it's a Continental flight talking to ops; I don't know the destination nor the flight number.  For 3 minutes a pilot gives a detailed report on a "heated discussion" between two of his passengers, as reported by a flight attendant.  Anyone know anything about this?  No return transmissons were audible.



Offline RayZor

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2007, 11:29:09 PM »
Wow, never heard as much detail with incidents like this.  Man!  I am listening now and the pilot is going on and on!  Good thing it was late.  JFK wouldn't like his non-conciseness. 

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 12:24:41 PM »
Wow, never heard as much detail with incidents like this.  Man!  I am listening now and the pilot is going on and on!  Good thing it was late.  JFK wouldn't like his non-conciseness. 

It doesn't appear to be on an ATC frequency, as he asks the man to whom he is talking to update ATC on their situation.

Offline RayZor

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 03:06:18 PM »
It doesn't appear to be on an ATC frequency, as he asks the man to whom he is talking to update ATC on their situation.

Aha!  That explains it then.

Offline IndyTower

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 07:56:23 PM »
The pilot refered to "Desk 17," which would lead me to believe he was talking to dispatch.

Offline Hopkins

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007, 11:34:41 AM »
The frequency list for the Cleveland feed isn't totally up-to-date, but it's safe to assume that the pilot was talking to ops of some sort (dispatch or whatever).  I have a few ops frequencies programmed in on the feed.  They tend to be shared between multiple airlines and multiple airports -- since we couldn't hear the ground person's responses, I think it's a good bet that they were talking to some airport other than CLE.

Good catch, interesting discussion.

Offline Yegger

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007, 01:34:26 PM »
Possibly.  You can hear the pilot say "continue on to Washington" or something along those lines, so the destination was IAD, DCA, or BWI.

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 02:59:04 PM »
It's pretty clear to me that the flight was communicating with the airline's dispatch.  I don't know what kind of dispatch communication COA has but EGF, as well as many others,  has a system called telysis which allows aircraft to communicate with SOC (dispatch) or maintenace control over any ops freqency.  Airline pilots on this board can just ignore the following explanation as it will probably bore you.

Each outstation has a telysis receiver hooked up to their operations base station and to an unrestricted phone line.  The equipment on board the aircraft consists of a numeric keypad on the First Officer's hand mic.  The system is triggered when the F.O. keys the frequency and dials a code to activate the reciever and direct the call to the right desk.  If COA had been using it in this scenario he would have dialed CLE17 (assuming they were using the CLE ops receiver) and he could communicate with dispatch while in reception range of that base station.

Sorry for the long-winded and somewhat trivial post but the next time you hear telephone beep-tones on an airband frequency you'll know what it is.
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Offline Check Airman

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Re: Cleveland Incident Last Night
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 10:39:14 PM »
Seems pretty flippant overreaction to a nonevent in my opinion. People from the Middle East can't be pissed with the pain that is airline travel now?