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Offline dave

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Boston Tower near miss (June 9, 2005)
« on: July 18, 2005, 04:25:35 PM »
Here are the Tower and Approach recordings from the June 9 incident between USA1170 and EIN132 Heavy.

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2005, 05:07:41 PM »
Chilling stuff!  I was very shocked when I was listening to this.

Pilots never like to get phone numbers to call; but at least it was not directly their fault.  Glad that this was not a fatal outcome.

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2005, 08:29:53 PM »
Thanks Dave for posting that.  You can never get a good feel for an operational error from the news reports or the NTSB report.  It's clear now that both controllers were trying to shoot gaps with arrivals on crossing runways and they apparently weren't on the same page.
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where is the incident?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 04:33:19 AM »
I listened to the clip 2 times and I'm not sure exactly where the near miss is.  Can someone give me a time stamp or something as to what to listen for?  thanks

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Re: where is the incident?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 06:25:30 AM »
Quote from: jester115
I listened to the clip 2 times and I'm not sure exactly where the near miss is.  Can someone give me a time stamp or something as to what to listen for?  thanks


Listen to the Tower recording again...listen for "Close!"  It is 1:38 into the Tower recording.

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2005, 09:54:51 AM »
Maybe this will help... (adobe acrobat reader required)

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0507/00058AD.PDF
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2005, 06:16:40 PM »
Well further information on this, USA1170 was a 733 heading to PHL, he was at 200ft leaving the end of the rnwy, EIN132 was at 500ft leaving the end of the rnwy and heading to EINN, type an A333. All that from Passur....

If anyone cares to view the incident, it starts at about 19:38...

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Boston Tower near miss (June 9, 2005)
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2005, 07:15:04 PM »
That pilot did not see him till late! almost to late sadly.
2X2L calling CQ...
2X2L calling CQ...
2X2L calling CQ...New York.
Isn't anyone on the air?
Is there anyone...?