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Air Traffic Monitoring => Aviation Audio Clips => Topic started by: MathFox on August 25, 2008, 10:50:23 AM
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"Baby" 2991 missed one, and made the second attempt.
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Good clip, thanks for posting. See BMIBaby all the time at EDI. If anyone's wondering, A/C type is a 733.
Regards
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Sounds like some confusion all around.
Pilot messed up his initial approach, went around without advising tower, was then cleared to climb to 'four zero', later to 'flight level 45', which he acknowledged. Then later when asked why he went to 4500', he said he made a mistake!
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The pilot was high on his go-around; procedure says 2000 feet, he ended at 4500. (See the approach plate)
http://www.ais-netherlands.nl/aim/080619-080731/eAIP/html/graphics/eAIP/AM-IAC-18R-1.pdf
(the above link may have a limited lifetime... latest plates are available via http://www.ais-netherlands.nl/aim/index.html, click "integrated package" and then drill down to aerodromes/EHAM Amsterdam/EHAM charts related....)
It is easy to miss a subtlety like that in all the confusion.
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Hollis
Just to clarify.
As aircrew, in a go-around situation, we talk with the tower as and when we are able.
A go-around is a busy procedure. It's not just a case of pulling up and flying anywhere in the sky. There are set procedures that we follow - have a look at the Missed Approach Procedure above.
It's Aviate, Navigate, Communicate - in that order.
Regards
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Farrell1234,
I understand that a go-around is a busy procedure for the pilots and I understand that they give priority to flying the plane over talking to ATC.
I have one nagging question: how do you explain that the pilots ended at FL45, instead of 2000 ft? (I see that as a safety issue, there could have been arrivals or departures in that airspace.) My suggestion is that the go-around procedure was not properly briefed on approach.
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that SHOULD have been a pilot deviation...