Author Topic: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour  (Read 48935 times)

Offline athaker

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Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour
« on: March 10, 2007, 03:58:54 AM »
So this was a fun night at Kennedy, 3/1/07 around 2300Z.  Our favorite entertainer Arnie was manning the 13L and 22 arrivals while a second tower controller was handling arrivals and departures on 13R (hence the cut off radio traffic in this shortened clip). 

Right when things got busiest and the second controller advised 13R departures of a traffic jam, a waiting aircraft reports a popping sound and smoke after Delta 412 lands on 13R nearby.  The result? => "It's gonna be another one of those nights guys..."

I left some of Arnie in the beginning as introductory material to show you the busy-ness and also because...well, you'll see.

Oh, and at the very end of the clip, after the problem is resolved, somebody chimes in with a perfectly understandable question...see if u can catch it.

P.S.: my first audio post
« Last Edit: October 01, 2008, 11:56:12 AM by athaker »



Offline phillipsjoef

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 10:38:57 AM »
Good Stuff.  Congratulations on your first audio post. 

It's nice to hear true professionals doing a great job and having some fun too.

Must admit I have some sympathy for international crews trying to understand the rapid-fire instructions from KJFK ATC.  I thought it was funny about the first controller's comments he didn't understand a particular pilot's transmission because I could hardly understand what the controller was saying.     


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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2007, 10:49:11 AM »
"Is this New York"? I caught that at the end. Great clip!
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2007, 01:25:58 PM »
Thanks, really like that one too, especially the end. Hilarious.
He could as well have asked "Arnie, are you ok?"

Offline athaker

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2007, 09:30:55 PM »
hey check out this picture I found.  NYC departure and arrival aircraft movement.  You can see that they were using the Canarsie approachs 13 L/R to JFK and from each airport you can see the different departures used in aircraft sequencing (the clearance issued climb) for entrail restrictions. 

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2007, 12:35:23 AM »
I think that just like it has been done for the Boston Tower for John and Charlie, there should be a tribute to Arnie at JFK because he is just too much. Never fails to make me laugh.

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2007, 12:42:26 AM »
Does anyone have another recording of this clip? For some reason, it is not working for me. Thanks

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 01:11:09 PM »
Wow Great clip!

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2007, 10:04:34 AM »
this is a really good clip!!!

and he is so calm about it !!

"It's gonna be another one of those nights guys..."

Offline PHL Approach

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2007, 07:08:27 PM »
Very good catch!!! This has got to be the clip of the year. All great examples of teamwork... Not to mention that Bravo clearance by Arnie was NUTS!

Offline athaker

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 09:18:06 PM »
yea that clearance at the beginning of the clip has gotta be one of my favorite moments from him.

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 09:32:08 AM »
This one should play for those of us who couldn't listen to the original:


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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2007, 01:30:51 PM »
I must say that I try to stick to prescribed phraseology and use a callsign to begin a transmission, but... that was hysterical.  He did a good job.
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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 02:09:37 PM »
Did anyone actually understand what he said.

I'm not from NYC (thought I'm from BUF), and i don't hear fast talking controllers often. However, if you really hunker down, even on the first time, you can understand everything! Amazing what listening does!  ;)

Greg

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2007, 04:03:52 PM »
Did anyone actually understand what he said.

I'm not from NYC (thought I'm from BUF), and i don't hear fast talking controllers often. However, if you really hunker down, even on the first time, you can understand everything! Amazing what listening does!  ;)

Greg

Ya gotta fly down here to experience it for yourself.  Try listening to Kennedy TCA on a busy day, it's absolutely incredible to listen to.

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2007, 04:58:43 PM »
I have heard Kennedy on a busy day. You need to be on the ball!

Fun times,
Greg

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2007, 11:46:34 AM »
Wow. I am totally new to this game and i have listened to a couple of these transmissions and some live stuff..... How quickly does this guy talk? Does he come up for breath??

Offline athaker

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2007, 03:50:13 PM »
does anyone else think that Arnie's partner in the tower sounds like Alan Alda?

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2007, 07:15:14 AM »
Mmmmm, naw, his voice is slightly deeper, I watched 11 seasons of M*A*S*H and he sounds a bit different.

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2007, 04:58:51 PM »
First post....great site!

If I didn't know Howard Stern was busy with his XM radio gig, I could swear it was him.

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2007, 06:25:08 PM »
I was hoping the clip would be longer because I was hoping the controller took the opportunity to tell the Quebec line, "Gentlemen, start your engines!"  LOL     after his little 'jack it up, get 4 fresh tires and a coat for the driver in 14 sec" comment :-D

Offline athaker

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour, plus ARNIE
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2007, 10:29:50 PM »
haha trust me...if he had said that, it would have been included.  They kind of all figured out when they should startup and the controller changed shortly after the runway opened up again so no go with the start your engines.

Imagine standing near Quebec if they were all to simultaneously turn on their engines, though...can only dream

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2007, 12:43:14 PM »
"I did not understand a word you said there, sir"

Nice one Arnie!


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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2007, 05:49:32 PM »
To an unsuspecting pilot...the same could be said to him at the beginning of the clip.

Greg

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Re: Blown Tire at KJFK during evening rush hour
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2007, 12:28:10 AM »
The controller who gives that chopper the amazingly fast bravo clearance...anybody know when and what position he's working these days? 

I hear him on clearance once in a while but I never enjoyed JFK ground and tower as when he worked it all the time.

someones gotta know