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ATC scolds pilot
pquinley:
ATC scolds pilot and has him call, gives out phone number, JFK ATC
Unable to post link. Time was approx 0828 to 0833 today 6-19-08
Sorry if not enough info, first post ever.
KSYR-pjr:
Hey, welcome - Was it the JFK ground or tower feed?
SweedChef:
Here's the clip (cropped):
JetBlue 20 is the culprut, but if you listen carefully, it's a confusing instruction.
JetBlue starts at ZA and cleared right C, 13L, D, right B to the ramp (WA). Jet Blue's callback is C, 13L, D. (If you look at the charts, that doesn't make sense)
ATC then gives him E B to the ramp to confuse things even more....piolt must have thought he was cleared into D, however, he was asked to hold at B @ D when Both JB20 and JB1061 didn't have a gate.
Piolt was in error to simply enter D....his inital entry was WA, and he was to hold short of D. I'm guessing JB1061 was still on Delta waiting for a gate.
JC
A_J_D_C:
man, intense hey! great find, where did you find the clip and was there anymore to it than that. would be interesting to see what happened cause, yer, im a little confused... he gave him taxiway DELTA - to the ramp, then said he could take left ECHO, RIGHT BRAVO if he wanted to.... "because that would work too" if he liked. I would not have taken that as i have just changed your taxi clearance cause this one might be better. Are we missing something here?
SweedChef:
Not quite, his initial entry call is WA (next taxi-way down)....ground will expect you to go there.....it appears he entered in on his own at Delta when his gate became available. (He was holding on Bravo short of Delta waiting for a gate)
The Second instruction given was just another way to get on Bravo.
His first call-back was incorrect and should maybe have been corrected (should have been Delta, right Bravo to ramp)....but he WAS expected to go to WA.
Definate Neah-Neah.
P.S Clip is JFK Ground, 12:00Z (end) and 12:30Z (beginning)
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