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Air Force Two at KSYR
« on: May 10, 2009, 09:22:03 PM »
Air Force Two in my town ! (:

Mr.Biden visited Syracuse today for speech at Syracuse University.

AF2 arrived at SYR in between 13:00-13:30Z and departed KSYR in between 19:30-20:00Z

Callsign Air One was a helicopter escorting VP.

Clip is edited by me, and here are some "highlights" of the clip

At 2:15 in the clip is the starting point of departure of AF2 as Air One calls Syracuse

At 3:25 in the clip Air Wisconsin 4026 about to go on Hold for VIP

At 4:40 in the clip Air Wisconsin asks "Who's in town?"

At 4:47 in the clip Air Force Two starts it's taxi to runway 29 with information Victor

At 5:20 in the clip Air Force Two gets takeoff clearance

At 5:35 in the clip Air Force Two handoff to departure, miss readback callsign as Air Force One

At 5:53 in the clip Air Force Two handoff to New York Center

Hope you guys enjoy [i took some time for this one clip :-D]


sincerely, Rae

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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2009, 11:50:40 PM »
The VP gets a plane? All Chaney had was one of these. No wonder Chainey's so mad now!

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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 02:42:32 AM »
Biden should be riding in the back of a pickup truck.  That way he's not cramped up with other people in a confined space.
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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 08:21:23 AM »
thanks for this, Аэрофлот.  

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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 07:40:04 PM »
thanks for this, Аэрофлот.  

Not a problem, thanks for letting me know bidens coming in town that day
sincerely, Rae

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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 05:55:41 AM »
Well, while we're at it.....

Thanks Rae.  You're my hero
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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 02:36:09 PM »
Well if you ask me the VP shouldn't have much to complain about... he only flys in this thing...
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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 07:20:38 PM »
I have pics of one of these birds at KYIP back in 1999 or 2000. Pre-winglet C-23 (B757-200). I forget who was in town...Don't think it was the VP though...

I think the "Air Force Two" callsign, just like "Air Force One", is only used when the VP is on-board. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that!  :wink:

"Air Force One" is what ever aircraft the President is on. I've heard of shorter trips where the President used this version or the B737 variant they have. Strange to hear a B737 called "Air Force One"!!
See below:

Boeing C-40B BBJ (737-7CP) 01-0041 (cn 33080/1089):

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-C-40B-BBJ/1503024/L/&sid=92cd747e735092b9a0cc9e8e07a1a2fd

Here is Boeing C-32A (757-2G4) 99-0003 (cn 29027/824), one of the C-32A's more commonly used as "Air Force Two":

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-C-32A-(757-2G4)/1467125/L/&sid=f95dbe39bd012295f19a799b30714f88

And of course we all know Boeing VC-25A (747-2G4B) 82-8000 (cn 23824/679) seen landing in  Prague - Ruzyne (PRG / LKPR), as "Air Force One":

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-VC-25A-(747-2G4B)/1512049/L/&sid=e2b8acc5234ac6fdfbf625a5fbc4f7e4

There is also another highly modified B747-200 in the fleet. Known as the "Airborne Command Post",  Boeing E-4B (747-200B)  75-0125 (cn 20949/257). It has been said, if need be, the Armed Forces could "run" an entire war form this aircraft. Note all the antennas on top, including the large dome over the upper deck. That is a satellite communications antenna:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-E-4B-(747-200B)/1294281/L/&sid=48112e39feb05db61e7ffd9315ae6e67

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-E-4B-(747-200B)/1518785/L/&sid=e2b8acc5234ac6fdfbf625a5fbc4f7e4

And here is the Wiki page on the E4B. Lots of great info, but too much to type here! A pretty neat bird too!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-4
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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 02:51:51 PM »
Heres the nickname for the E-4
"The E-4 fleet was originally deployed in 1974, when it was termed National Emergency Airborne Command Post or NEACP (often pronounced "kneecap"). The aircraft was to provide a survivable platform to conduct war operations in the event of a nuclear attack. Early in the operations of the E-4, the media dubbed the aircraft as "the doomsday planes"." (WIKI)

Does anyone know of any other special use aircraft? (Military or Civilian)
I have heard of the New P-8 Posidon (Navy Special Ops/Multi mission aircraft)

Here its link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-8_Poseidon

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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 03:22:18 PM »
The US Navy uses a modified DC-9-32CF for many diffrent uses. They call it the McDonnell Douglas C-9B "Skytrain II" (DC-9-32CF). The "CF" means it is a "Convertable Freighter". In the pic below, you can see the outline of the cargo door just aft of the first three cabin windows. These airplanes can be converted to all pax for troop movements, all cargo for special opps, or a combination pax/cargo setup.

McDonnell Douglas C-9B "Skytrain II" (DC-9-32CF) 159118 (cn 47585/698) seen here at Lajes / Azores (AB4) (TER / LPLA):

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Navy/McDonnell-Douglas-C-9B/1471863/L/&sid=f0159901dcf094c3cd863bf4763a314d

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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 03:39:44 PM »
The Royal Air Force uses several modified L-1011-385-3. They have several designations for the bird, depending on its role. Some are refuels, some are troop transports, some are VIP and other Government use.

Here is a refuel. Lockheed L-1011-385-3 TriStar C2 (500) ZE705 / 705 (cn 193Y-1188) of the 216 Sqn, Royal Air Force seen here in grey:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Lockheed-L-1011-385-3-TriStar/1501336/L/&sid=d7cc806d8c2f5a56ae0d2fbcfae9f675

Here is a close-up look at the belly of Lockheed L-1011-385-3 TriStar KC1 (500) ZD948 (cn 193V-1157), and it's refueling equipment:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Lockheed-L-1011-385-3-TriStar/1487389/L/&sid=d7cc806d8c2f5a56ae0d2fbcfae9f675

Here is another example, mainly used for troop transport, Lockheed L-1011-385-3 TriStar C2A (500) ZE706 (cn 193Y-1177) poses in all white.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Lockheed-L-1011-385-3-TriStar/0991179/L/&sid=283b4f376926bdd3e7b91ce542f6eb87

Here is her interior(ZE706):

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Lockheed-L-1011-385-3-TriStar/1485140/L/&sid=283b4f376926bdd3e7b91ce542f6eb87

This aircraft served Pan Am in her early years(cn 193Y-1177)!  :-D

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Pan-Am/Lockheed-L-1011-385-3-TriStar/1469147/L/&sid=283b4f376926bdd3e7b91ce542f6eb87




 
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Re: Air Force Two at KSYR
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2009, 03:43:40 PM »
And here are a couple of civil uses of modified aircraft. I posted this a while ago. Heavy jets used for fire fighting. DC-10 and B747. Check out the vids! Pretty sweet!  :wink:

http://www.liveatc.net/forums/listener-forum/fire-fighting-goes-heavy-dc-10-and-b747-air-tanker/
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