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Offline dan9125

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Comair pilot with stuck mic
« on: February 22, 2007, 01:55:22 PM »
Caught this Comair flight 446 climbing out of Buffalo today enroute to JFK with a stuck mic. I think he said he had an issue with his flaps...blah blah blah!

 Dan (KBUF)



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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2007, 06:20:10 PM »
Thats great. Simply great.
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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 07:07:31 PM »
Good find, Thanks!!

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 09:42:14 PM »
"You got a stuck mic there cap'n!"  :wink:

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2007, 03:52:52 AM »
This vaguely sounds like that Sean Connery pilot :-P

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2007, 02:55:56 PM »
I don't like how that may portray airline pilots..."blah blah..."

Get those more often than one thinks!

Greg

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2007, 06:24:43 PM »
I don't like how that may portray airline pilots..."blah blah..."

Get those more often than one thinks!

Greg

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FO: Departure Breifing
CA: Reviewed
FO: IRS
CA: NAV, Aligned
FO: blah blah I dont know why we have to do this every freakin flight... Lets skip the rest...."

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2007, 09:51:12 AM »
First Post here , being a controller, this one made the hair on my neck stand up!! at 30 sec into the clip
the controller says "Climb and maintain  FL230 " , pilot reads "heading 230" and mic gets stuck (worst case senerio ). when mic is unstuck,the controller just changes his Freq. without correcting the alt mistake.

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2007, 10:50:24 AM »
I never noticed that part and i'm the one that posted it! Good thing theres not much difference between heading 230 and flight level 230.  :wink:

 Peter...another boring landing in Buffalo this morning?
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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2007, 05:39:42 PM »
Peter...another boring landing in Buffalo this morning?

Yep, gusting winds, blowing snow, and a white-out on the runway.  Just another day in paradise.

Hey, Dan, do you have the delay enabled on your scanner?   At least when listening to the archives (I haven't listened live lately), I noticed that your feed cuts off the first word or two of most of my pilot-side activity.  Or perhaps it is a reception issue?  I dunno...



Regards, Peter
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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2007, 05:48:28 PM »
Peter,
  Not sure what would cause that, i'll check it out in the morning. I think I have the delay shut off on the Niagara Falls freq but not the 3 Buffalo channels.

  Dan

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2007, 05:40:23 PM »
  Not sure what would cause that, i'll check it out in the morning. I think I have the delay shut off on the Niagara Falls freq but not the 3 Buffalo channels.

Dan, try relaxing the squelch on your scanner just a bit.  That may be the ticket.
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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2007, 01:24:11 PM »
Ok, Squelch has been backed down a quarter turn. I have heard Buffalo simulcast on 126.500 and 126.150 so if the tower talks on one frequency and you answer on the other the delay might cut off the first part of your transmission, in a case like that the delay is more of a hinderance.
 
  Caught this KingAir landing last Sunday morning on 23

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/jaypeggin/king-air.jpg

 ever tried this??

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2007, 01:55:20 PM »
Ok, Squelch has been backed down a quarter turn. I have heard Buffalo simulcast on 126.500 and 126.150 so if the tower talks on one frequency and you answer on the other the delay might cut off the first part of your transmission, in a case like that the delay is more of a hinderance.

Thanks, Dan.  I'll take a listen to the archives on Thursday when I return home to see if that addressed the issue.


  Caught this KingAir landing last Sunday morning on 23

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/jaypeggin/king-air.jpg

 ever tried this??

Cool picture.  Looks to me like an aircraft in a slip to land (right aileron, left rudder that lowers the upwind wing and aligns the aircraft to the runway) during one of Buffalo's many windy days.

In the event you were unaware, when winds are moderate or stronger and are blowing several degrees off the runway centerline, smaller aircraft will typically crab down final approach, which means the aircraft will be pointing its nose into the wind, but the track is aligned with the runway centerline (think vector math).

Again, for small aircraft, you cannot land this way or else you would place an undue amount of stress on the landing gear as well as perhaps lose control of the aircraft once on pavement.

Thus, a pilot would typically transition from a crab to a slip (kick opposite rudder and lower the upwind wing with aileron) at the last moment to align the aircraft with the runway centerline.

Why don't pilots fly all the way to the runway in a slip?  Because it is not comfortable for passengers.

A crab is a coordinated flight control maneuver (ailerons working with rudder) that results in g-forces going straight through the bottom of the aircraft that pulls pilot and passenger(s) directly into the seat slightly.  A slip is an uncoordinated flight control maneuver that results in the g-forces pointing somewhere through the side of the aircraft and sending passenger fannies sliding along the top of the seat.

So yes, I do that all the time landing in your windy city.  :)
« Last Edit: March 13, 2007, 01:58:10 PM by KSYR-pjr »
Regards, Peter
ATC Feed:  Syracuse (KSYR), NY

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2007, 02:10:39 PM »
That sounds exactly the way I land except my rear end is in my computer chair and i'm landing a 737 in St.Martin with Flight Sim! Actually his wings were rocking back and forth through most of his approach, i just got lucky and snapped this shot when his right winged dipped. Maybe someday i'll get a shot of you landing!

  Dan

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Re: Comair pilot with stuck mic
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2007, 02:23:39 PM »
Actually his wings were rocking back and forth through most of his approach, i just got lucky and snapped this shot when his right winged dipped.

You can thank the gusty winds of Buffalo for that scene.   

Maybe someday i'll get a shot of you landing!

That would be great, although unless winds are really strong or there is a runway closure I will almost always be landing on 32 since Prior Aviation is an easy turn-off from that runway.

Regards, Peter
ATC Feed:  Syracuse (KSYR), NY